R. Kelly Survivor Lisa VanAllen Says New Sex Tapes Sound Like Her Experience | TMZ

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1. Y I think most of them women lying

   • Exactly

   • Plenty of other actual interesting books to look into than her garbage. “Survivor” fucking LOL

   • The video lying too?

   • because they’re black american women.

   • Danny Dorko lol

2. Lmao “survivor”

   • LOL!

   • More like thot

   • Mollyinmylean right like WHO died

   • Lol

3. Why didn’t they go after him in the 90s? Waiting for his bank account to stack before this even comes out.. smh

   • Exactly.

   • Grap3 Ap3 I swear

4. But… did R. Kelly have some type of supernatural power over these women? Once they knew what he was up to, did they HAVE to hang around him much longer (as if they were tied up, or something)?

   • His young mind was manipulated before he was fully developed if you want to use that theory. And everything else that you stated applies to these girls also. Yea we all know about the R Kellys in the neighborhood. And, everyone knew about the R Kelly in real life. (all the early accusations from 91. Him marrying Aaliyah in 94). You can’t convenience me that a 13+-year-old girl doesn’t know that they shouldn’t be allowing somebody darn near old enough to be their daddy talk to them in a sexual manner let alone be touching them. Even if their parents didn’t object. Elders in the neighborhood would warn, tell, and chastise them about going near “Chester the molester”. Plus, some of the peers who did know better would say something and or criticize them about messing with old men. I know we used to tell the girls that did it. That they were going to get worms for messing with old men. They chose to put their hand to that fire even though they were told it was hot so, they get no pass, empathy/sympathy here.

   • In the doc he threatened the lives of one of the girls and her family when she tried to leave. They were probably afraid.

   • +Roseline Edwards so its their fualt huh? SMH, the black community is the only community that does this mess

   • +Gymmaster 🤔🤔

   • +Before The Dutt who girl he peed on tin the video?

5. She need to go to jail to. No questions asked

   • Excalty

6. Question; Why wasn’t Lisa also charged with having sex with a minor? Since she just admitted in this video having sex with (both) her (14yrs old girl) and R. Kelly at the same time!🤔

   • She was of age or Kelly would have been in jail she a peto her self and I wouldn’t trust someone how willingly had a threesome with a 14 year old girl

   • CELOW BANKS…. Do that same ENERGY go for R KELLY and THREESOME with 14 year old girl..🤔🤔 🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷

   • Yes!!

   • If she knew and continued after finding out age..then yes…how old was she when …? Forgot

   • Jacob Longer witness fam paid off

7. THAT MONEY MUST OF STOP COMING NOW THEY TALKING

   • 7 DAYS A Week wrong! The money coming is why they started talking. Being paid tons of money to tell a story on camera would make anyone talk. Even if what you are saying is far from factual!

   • +Xcalibur Da Turntablist … Why you feel some type of way?? .. You must be close to R Kelly or Her …right?

   • Facts

   • 7 DAYS A Week I am a black man! It very well could be me that is accused of crimes just to fit “their” agenda. So I feel strongly about everything I say dealing with this. These females are out for money and have only had something to say once they were paid to do that while on camera. Prior to that they were quiet like a church mouse. People talk all that crap about “it took them a while to gain the strength” or “they waited for others to tell their stories before they opened up” are simply making excuses for these types of setup situations to continue. They never want actual justice because if they did, they would be questioning the motives of these females for saying what they are saying so many years removed from when it happened. It’s one thing if they went to law enforcement with the claims years ago and they didn’t have enough evidence. That’s not the case here. Not one of these females took their claims to police despite having years to do so. It’s almost as if R Kelly is guilty before being found innocent. I am not high fiving the man if he did commit those crimes he is accused of. What I am saying is that despite public opinion of the charges levied, he is still innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. That is how the law is supposed to work and most of all that is exactly how it is written!

8. These Females could care less if R.Kelly is jailed they just want a large some of Money

   • *sum

   • Who paying? He broke… Hense why it’s time for jail

   • nah i think hes broke. they just want the attention more than pressing charges

9. Tammy Faye Bakker has come back from the dead!

10. What you all fail to realize is that this woman is pushing a book. So that book was being written to coincide with the lifetime special and the TV show. It takes a year +to get a book written and publishes. So all this is planned and orchestrated.

    If it was wrong 20 years ago why didn’t she go and report it.

    All this is being done to shut down Kelly music by people in the industry.

    • +Roseline Edwards that was just media slander….he pays people to go away and to have his way…all those lawsuits he got in Cook County for paying the parents of 12 and 14 years old since 2002 (allegaations of messing minors going back as far as 2000) lets you know that’s M.O…..It’s not that she wasn’t a credible witness (although it is the defense’s job to make it appear that way), it’s that he paid for the silence of the girl and her family plus his lawyers got the trial delayed for 6 years and by then she was 21…money and connections to big wigs with money can buy you favors….back then he was hot now he’s a liability and a bone to throw at the “me too’s” but he is guilty so let them pick the bones. Bump the documentary, there is plenty of history before then. He is what his sister made him to be.

    • +Deidra Cade maybe you should go read some of the transcripts from the case. You’re up here saying. “It was media slander for her” NO. What they’re doing to him is media slander. That con artist stole a tape. Sent it to somebody she knew to hold for her. Two years after she stole it, and had already left (or got kicked out). She called him and told him she had the tape. Then, told him her friend was going to want money to get it back. The fact that she had extorted him for money for the tape. Her and her boyfriend. And, that she had stolen a $25,000 dollar watch from him was the reason the jury said they didn’t find her to be a credible witness. Tell me why people chose money over the wellbeing of their children. If he had so many cases and payouts to people. If you chose to accept money over some man abusing and molesting your child. Then you don’t get to come back 30 years later talking about being a victim. You chose money over justice. Finally. That man is a product of his environment ( a family of molestation). And, what the industry groomed and promoted him to be. Demetrius Smith the man who discovered him used him and taught him how he could use his voice to pick up girls when he was only 16. And Demetrius was sleeping with the girls also. Demetrius was over 30 years old. Demetrius also knew that his(Demetrius) sister was molesting and having sex with R Kelly. She was 27-28 and R Kelly was a minor. But his sister and her basketball player husband financed R Kelly and Demetrius didn’t want to lose the money so he stayed quiet about it. When he started recording and performing, they promoted him as a sex symbol and charmer to play to the females. He didn’t know how to read or write and they took advantage of him and exploited him in a sexual way where he was already wrestling with demons from being molested by his sister and other family members. Nobody tried to get him any help. They fed that demon within him and, rode his coat taill to fame fortune and the limelight.

    • +Deidra Cade you say there were allegations and cases going back as far as 2000. Well, his inner circle knew what he was doing well before 2000. And, he himself showed the world what he was about and his M.O when he married Aaliyah in 94. Did anyone try to get him punished or some help? No. They took the money and tricked him out of his masters instead. Then to have a tape of him pissing on a child come out in 2002. And all the evidence of child pornography, he slipped through the crack and people again took money over justice/punishment. Then, people showed how ignorant, greedy, and stupid they were because they STILL CHOSE to seek him out, engage and associate themselves with him. And allow and participate in his deviant behavior. Like somebody stated. Now, they’re victims and “surviving”. Back then they were having fun. Miss me with the bs. The only victims I see are Aaliyah and that girl in the piss tape. And. They were more victims of their parents and family than they were R Kelly.

    • +Roseline Edwards But honestly Aaliyah is the same type of victim as the rest. Her family took money too. They kept quiet too. People enabled him but it’s still his behavior. The case was not tried until 6 years later strategically, so if the girl said it was not her and so did her parents, there is enough reasonable doubt there for the jury. Some of the evidence the lawyers got thrown out so that can’t be counted. Also at that time he made people in the industry a lot of money and it would be a bit naive to not think they weren’t helping in some way especially since many of them exhibit the same behavior. There is a whole ring of them. Chris Stokes hasn’t had a day in court either. Money and connections is why some of them never will. Kevin Spacey has been outed for some years and even had skits of his acts portrayed in family guy but no real action came about until a year or so go. He’s not in jail though because he is connected to that ring and when you have police, pastors, doctors, and judges caught up in child sex trafficking rings, to get justice on issues such as these are not as simple as one might think. Sometimes they know or are attached to bigger fish that keep them afloat. They are just throwing R Kelly to the wolves because he’s not the asset he used to be. I can acknowledge that but still not have a problem with him going down because he did those things and kept doing them even after the trial. He can have 19 year old girlfriends and a sex cult if he wanted to cause he grown, but he shouldn’t be messing with kids. Plus, y’all be mixing the time periods up and meshing people’s stories together when they don’t all have the exact same story, But again, he is the head of all the enablers, so in any situation the person who heads up something will take a lot of the fault and in this case it’s warranted because his orders could have easily been to do charitable work to help the young girls just as he did others in Chicago. He gave in to his own darkness so it was his decision that brought about it all. Doesn’t absolve other people of the role they play and it also doesn’t negate the fact that he was also a victim himself.

    • +Deidra Cade i believe I said Aaliyah and the piss tape girl were more victims of their parents and family than they were R Kelly. I’m not mixing up anyone’s story who has spoken out claiming to be a victim. And, yes i feel he should’ve been punished for anyone that he had sex with under the legal age of consent. Which is 17-16 in some states. But, parents chose money and; he paid his way out of it. If we feel 16-17 is still too young to consent because “they aren’t fully developed mentally”. Then we need to be campaigning against the lawmakers and force them to raise the age of consent to 21. Also, who’s responsible for a child until they turn 18. THE PARENT. If you as a parent haven’t taught your child about good touch bad touch. Or, made them comfortable enough that they could tell you everything. (especially about some pervert touching them) then that’s the parent’s fault. Sorry but, if we want to place blame. Then, EVERYBODY INVOLVED is to blame. And, if we’re going to pick victims, then R Kelly was a victim too.
      They were all thriving and riding that freak-nic train until the finances to fund it ran out. Now they want to claim they’re “surviving” and are a “victim”. Yea right, a victim of their choices and their own personal greed of fame and fortune.

11. So she said she waadating him..but yet they are calling her a survivor. LOL

    • They all thought they were dating him and going to be the main lady. They all knew about each other and, they all moved forward with a an agenda of riding his fame and getting paid.

12. Snitching and lying for that bag 🤥💰

13. I don’t feel sorry for them at all .

14. She just mad because she wasnt his number 1.

    • They all Big mad they wasn’t his #1

    • 🤦🏾‍♀️ dimwits

    • Fax

15. Everyone that watched the video should be charged for watching child porn🤔

    • Run they are come looking for you

    • I agree. I remember CNN tweeted that they viewed the tape and I’m thinking “why are y’all admitting to watching child porn?” SMH

    • CrazyCountrySouthernBelle My coworker pointed it out to me 🤷🏾‍♂️🙅🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

    • Lovely Kay IKR I never seen the video and don’t care to see none of the videos. I am looking forward to see how this case unfold then I will do my youtube video🤔

    • I think this is why most people supported him after the acquittal. You would had to view that disgusting tape to form an opinion. Most of us don’t watch child porn so we trusted the jury….

16. She got immunity from prosecution in the first trial because she was an adult. She also left R. Kelly, had a baby with another dude and went back to R. Kelly….FRAUD. chasing the bag.

    • Exactly. Stole from him and extorted him. She wasn’t deemed credible back then and she damn sure isn’t credible now.

17. All these women were volunteers and are pretending to be victims

    • I agree

    • An underage “volunteer” is a CRIME

18. These girls are getting there 15 minutes of fame an they’re loving it bravo👏👏👏👏👏

19. She honestly lost any credibility she had when she stated that she had an abortion due to his “liking for younger girls” but had a baby by another man….and still went back to live with him. You don’t trust him to not touch his own child but you’ll bring someone else’s child around him? Okay.

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